A bunch of amateurs: Indonesia's homegrown jihadis ridicule Isis after Jakarta attack

Four weeks after Islamic State claimed killings, veteran extremists scorn its lack of relative success while experts fear local groups are now a growing threat with 'foreigners' in their sights As Abu Tholut sips on his guava juice, his wispy silver beard brushing against the glass, he mulls the state of global jihad and his not insubstantial role in it. Related: Three hours of mayhem, panic and bloodshed as terror comes to Jakarta